The G0Y movement. My first impression

I stumbled upon this some time ago on the net. Reading ‘Awash in Lies’ by Bill Weintraub was probably the first time I came across the term ‘G0Y’.

I don’t want to diss something that may actually be helping other guys. Including some masculine gay guys who don’t want to call themselves gay anymore because the effeminate gays call themselves gay and the musculine gay guys are going all ‘eww, no. We’re so not like that!’ and so they want to call themselves something else.

The following is just my opinion. First impression. It’s important I emphasize that because I have not put in the time and effort to study it properly. I haven’t even read the entire website (NSFW)

That was a struggle because it soon it felt like my eyeballs were burning and melting in their sockets. Such a bewildering layout of information. So much information. An entire labyrinth of info competing for the reader’s attention. It feels like a school project. Constructed by a student high on something and talking gibberish, all schizo and flailing arms wildly, excitedly.

I imagine that’s how it’s like if  a bunch of arty wordy types get together to create a Lord of the Rings or Avatar type of book or movie script, where it’s not just about characters and plot, but cities and entire races of people, languages, rituals. A whole new world. Or a cult. Or an elitist club.

This is from their website:

What’s a G0Y?
Short Version
It comes up in chat rooms and conversations more & more: “That G0Y thing.”  Everybody wants to comment without anyone seeming to actually read the website … so, I’ve put this page up to TRY to explain (once again) what a g0y is:

G0YS (Spelled with a ZER0) are guys who find men physically & emotionally attractive, but (for whatever reason) are offended with the stigmas that currently define the ‘gay community’ in the public psyche.  G0YS recognize that the prominent facets of the “gay-male” community tend to embrace every gender-bending act, fetish & affectation; –And include those things in the general specter of the image that “gay” projects publicly.  The easiest to observe example is the commonly used acronym “GLIT” (sometimes “GLIB”) meaning Gay, Lesbian, Intersexed, Transgendered (or BiSexual).  The fact that “GAY” is grouped with “Intersexed & Transgendered” is evidence to our primary point showing what the term “GAY” has morphed into.  G0YS reject those associations completely & consider it a form of gender-prejudice against men who love men.

Behaviorally: Anal-sex is innately shunned by g0ys – as it represents the ultimate form of sexual disrespect whether male/male or male/female.  Other distasteful stereotypes include (but are not limited to): Effeminate behavior, extreme passivity (like cowardice) & drag.  G0YS don’t call other men “girl”, “bitch”, “queen”, etc.  You probably get the idea.

G0YS also reject (due to well developed theology), the lax & lazy prejudices that have arisen in conservative fundamentalist circles against all same-gender sexuality.  In Christian circles, this travesty has arisen due to the extremely sloppy exegesis (& outfight fraud) of (6) verses of Scripture, w. a total failure to rightfully divide the Word.  This becomes quite apparent when the theme of the New Testament is held up as a standard, & these anti same-gender teachings are examined in light of that theme. Very briefly, Romans chapter (1) is a scathing commentary exposing temple prostitution & Anal-sex (Women w. men, & men w. men; — N0T what is called ‘homo-sex’).  This is made very clear by other writings of Saul/Paul himself, & a warning from Peter about those who would misinterpret Paul’s writings.  Paul writes that those who did these things received within themselves the due penalty for their perverse behavior – & that penalty was death.  Likewise, G0YS point out that Anal-Sex is the mechanism for the EXPLOSIVE SPREAD of Sexually Transmitted Diseases over the globe – many deadly.  The anus is not a sexual organ (genital) & treating it as such violates Moses’ command “Not to bear false witness“.  Scripture teaches that one of the very foundations of the faith involves “repentance from acts that lead to death“.   G0YS believe that changing the meaning of the Romans (1) from being against anal-sex, to a focus on (& against) ‘homo-sex’, -simultaneously adds & deletes from the canon of Scripture; & carries the ultimate penalty for perverting the gospel.

And the following is from the SAME page, where there’s even more other info:

Why ‘G0Y’ — spelled with a ZER0? What’s up with that? Because the g0y movement was created as a departure from stereotype; — A term was needed that had some meaning behind it, while being simple enough for people to remember; — plus stir some curiosity. Because the movement also was designed to eviscerate abusive religion (primarily fundamentalism in it’s many forms), the term needed to have foundations in Scripture as well (Because there are now “gAy affirming churches”, the term needed to confront sloppy theology that supports “everything gAy” — including Anal). How was this all accomplished? Read on…

Ancient Hebrew, (the language the Torah & rest of the Old Testament was written in), – is an amazing language. In its original written form, it has no vowels. They are inferred. If we were to adopt the same technique for English, the words:
gAy
gUy
gOy (In Hebrew, the term “goy” applies to a non-Hebrew person — foreign national)
… would all be spelled: GY; & the reader would place the vowel upon speaking based on context. Well, since English is NOT Hebrew, people might not “get it”. However, something else also came to light … and that was the fact that the Apostle Paul wrote that G0D chose the “thing which is N0T” to “NULLIFY things which are”. He basically explained that G0D used the power of a ZER0 to establish His new covenant by canceling out the written code that stood in opposition to us. This worked out well, because by inserting a ‘0’ between the ‘G_Y’, – the “A” in “GAY” was essentially zeroed out (see … N0 Anal) and the new term formed was 3 characters & looks like it should be pronounced “goy” (a Hebrew term that rhymes with “toy” & fits context perfectly) However, this new term is not really designed to be spoken, but rather EXPLAINED. So you see, this new term has some intellectual backing & some rich history!

It’s like a college course! Why be a simpleton and just look into your heart and find who you are there and what you like and love, when you can be all clever about it and feel smug and secure that what you are has ‘intellectual backing and some rich history’! Don’t you feel better and validated now?

What I’ve gathered about the G0Ys. So far. As stated earlier, I have much to read and study about them before I can make more informed and fair conclusions:

1. G0Ys include gay guys who do not relate to the term ‘Gay’. (Ok, fine.) Some may have feelings for women (bisexual, then) ‘but also deal with internal issues arising from the fact that they also have affections for other guys too‘. (Closeted? Ok, nothing wrong with that. To each his own whether to come out or not.)

2. They want nothing whatsoever to do with gender-bending, cross-dressing, or other effeminate stuff. (Fine. But who says you have to, whether you’re gay or straight or whatever?)

3. They don’t water down religious texts to justify being attracted to men. (Ok, good for them. But who says gay people in general do this? And whatever you do, well when it comes to reconciling our faiths to our sexual preference, it’s all personal and private. To each his own)

4. They think they are being respectful because they do not sacrifice their masculinity to love other men. (What has respect got to do with being masculine? And as far as I’m concerned, respect has to be mutual.)

5. The person/s behind the movement is/are prejudiced against Islam. As shown on this page. Tsk tsk. *sigh*

6. It’s youth-oriented, which is hilarious, because it makes the movement seem like some kind of a high school jock club. There are pictures of young cute buff guys all over the website. There’s even a page urging you to stop whining if you can’t get a date and go hit the gym instead! Ok, that’s good advice. But seriously, the following are some excerpts from that page dedicated to urging followers to muscle up. Yes, all the following gems are from one single page, and to top it off it’s called fatisbad.htm :

– You may indeed have a great personality, but with men — love is connected to sex.  After all: How is the guy going to get to know you have a great personality until you hook up? 

– Fat is EVIL

– Almost every guy with low body-fat can easily hook up.

– As a rule of thumb, the older you are, the more muscle guys expect to see on you.

– Sexual attraction begins when we discover adult traits in youth & end when the youth can no longer be found in the adult!

– Little Helps:  As you work toward your goal/s, keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with cosmetic assists.  Lots of men are opting for pec & calf implants these days.  If you’re working out & are willing to pay the price, — these can help you get to the appearance you want quicker.

– Mo Munny:  It’s a proven fact that good look’n dudes pull in more bucks — no matter what they do.

– So you’re young:   I’ve probably heard a 100+ guys say it: They wish they started working out while they were in their teens.  Guys who start early live with an advantages of looking good — often never knowing the hardships of the average or ugly!

– Have you ever seen a homeless male model?  No!  

– Thinking about “coming out g0y”?  Hit the gym hard for at least 6 months before you do.

– Remember, being built physically tells about your personality & ability to discipline yourself.  Anyone thinking about giving you the keys to the condo is going to want to see those traits.

– It’s a cruel world out there & being a dude who’s in shape with youth on his side is a powerful subliminal negotiating tool — especially to other g0ys who are more interested in building quality relationships than one-night stands

And this last bit I’m quoting here is the most disturbing of all:

– Being young & getting in shape has the advantages above & gives you a jump into life that keeps you ahead of the curve.  I once knew a 14 yo who was picking up 16+ yo’s (…in a legal jurisdiction of course … wink, wink).

It’s really strange to me, this G0Y stuff. The people who wrote the website, the above especially… must be really REALLY messed up in the head!!

I choose not to do anal, for my own personal reasons, and I’m not effeminate. But that’s all I have in common with these G0Y guys. I’m really against putting down effeminate guys. They have a right to be whatever they want to be too. In fact, I have a lot of respect for them. If anything, it takes balls to be effeminate or a drag queen, and not give a fuck about the inevitable abuse. So in that sense, drag queens are more ‘manly’, more courageous than many of us other gay men. Many of us can only talk about courage, and talk is cheap. But drag queens and other effeminate men are living examples of courage.



 

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11 thoughts on “The G0Y movement. My first impression

  1. From 1. You completely misunderstood the point of this movement. It’s not a bunch of closeted gays, i read the web UNLIKE MOST GAYS, it’s a term used to embrace the physical and emotional attraction to the same sex either as friends or as boyfriends. Girls do it all the time, (including me), i cuddle, snuggle, hug on my female friends, call them cute even admire their nude bodies, I’m not a lesbian. Girls don’t turn me on and I don’t want to have sex with them! I just respect the female form. I have no sexual feelings for my friends, it’s a womance. non-sexual G0ys are men who feel the same way towards other men (a bromance basically). In that there are g0ys who are sexual. There are PLENTY of g0ys who go under the homosexual or gay identity and MANY (IF NOT ALL) OPENLY SAY THAT!!!! This movement is simply embracing close-feelings towards masculinity from a masculine dudes, as womance embraces close feelings towards girls from girly girls. This is why g0ys reject effeminate acting men–it ruins the whole point of the movement. They aren’t putting them down, they just aren’t them. I’ve talked to plenty of g0ys and g0y sites that say they aren’t angered or mad at effeminate men, they are just not part of the ‘moncho-club’ just like g0ys aren’t allowed to the drag queen shows.

    Is masculinity a respect? Slightly. The very word masculine means: acting like a man, or of a man. In the gay world, men call each other bitches and queens–a gay man himself did this at my school. That’s not very redeeming… it’s the same sense when a boy calls me “dude” –ummm HELLO! Female here, yeah, thank you–it’s guuuurl! or MA’AM at least. G0ys call their lovers endearment terms but not anything female, they respect each other as men.

    @the sex: They respect each others as lovers and as fellow men. This is why they don’t practice anal sex. It’s been degrading way of dominance since the beginning of time, it’s purpose was to replace a vaginal hole. That’s not a homosexual way of having sex at all, it’s coprophilic, homophobic and unaffectionate. g0y sex is actually more affectionate, homosexual and to those who love it and rejected anal after trying it say it’s MORE pleasurable than anal sex. Anal sex is not chest to chest, penis-to-penis, arms and legs wrapped on each other, thrusting, squirming, kissing, climaxing and ejaculating on each other–sharing and mixing love potions. Its a man mounting a man from behind, or a man humping a man’s butt from the end of the bed. often the bottom has to reach his hand and touch his lover’s chest, this is about as romantic as it gets… It’s not homosexual, it’s just hetero-wanna-bes. The point of this was in fact love and respect between men with male sex and male gender. Why is that so hard for many to understand stand?

    As for the putting down of effeminate men, ummmm… it’s quite backwards:

    “Every few months, I read a post on one of the handful of gay blogs I read regularly that takes up the debate of “straight acting” gay guys and how they must be filled with self hatred and they just need to learn to embrace their ‘Inner Queen’.

    What a load of bullshit!

    It’s almost as if unless you swish when you walk you must be going out of your way to prevent yourself from looking too gay.

    In the immortal words of Popeye the Sailor-man, “I yam what I yam”. I’m sorry my masculinity makes you feel uncomfortable, Nancy. (Ok, I lied. Theres your apology)

    I’m actually fairly tolerant of effeminate guys, until they start putting me down because I’m not more like them. On the gender mannerism continuum, I’m actually closer toward the center or perhaps even a little more masculine than a lot of gay guys. I also tend to like guys who more like me in that regard.

    In fact, theres so much about ‘gay culture’ that turns me off, I’m hesitant to call myself gay. Obviously, I’m one boyfriend short of being straight. Can we just say I’m “Same Sex Attracted” and leave it at that?

    Yes, I realize I’m not going to win any popularity contest and this post probably won’t be picked up by any of the mainstream gay blogs. I’m okay with that. I’m perfectly content just being a hero to other guys like me who like guys but don’t really fit into the gay stereotypes.”

    From this site: http://frotnation.blogspot.com/?zx=a98150a730576fb7

    • Hi B-girl,

      1. I never stated that men who identified themselves as g0ys are closeted. (In the paragraph you referred to, please refer to the question mark after the word.) I merely wondered if the men referred to in the quote I took from the G0YS.org website are closeted, and if so, there is nothing wrong with that, as it is a personal decision.

      2. In your comment, you said “G0ys are men who feel the same way towards other men (a bromance basically)”. And then you said “there are g0ys who are sexual.” I believe the term ‘bromance’ refers to a non-sexual relationship between men. So, which is which? Do you think g0ys sexual or non-sexual? There’s no need to answer, I’m just pointing that out.

      3. G0ys don’t put down effeminate men? Ok, I’ll take your word for it for now lol, mainly because I still can’t bear to go through the G0YS.org website to find the source there that gave me this impression. The layout still gives me a headache. Also, the truth is that I’m just not interested enough in the subject. In any case it’s not like I would use that website to judge all guys who identify themselves as g0ys. That would be unreasonable and unfair.

      4. I think that what is considered ‘masculine’ is subjective, and covers such a wide area of different things and characters and interests, that it’s pointless to debate what it is. Plus, I’ve come across gay men who only appear ‘masculine’, beefy bodies and facial hair and all, but who have mannerisms I think of as effeminate, so the lines seem kinda blurred there LOL. Anyway whatever it is, I think we just need to accept and respect one another regardless of whether we are masculine or effeminate or in between or whatever.

      5. I do agree with these g0y people that anal sex is gross, and therefore I stopped some years ago. I shouldn’t be revealing this because it should be private and nobody’s business, but oh well: I don’t do anal. In fact I’ve been practically celibate for years now haha… but that’s my choice. It’s the choice of other men whether they want to engage in anal sex or whatever sex. For me, it’s something I had never been comfortable with, I did it to make the other person happy. But I chose to stop. And I should mention I was inspired further by the Man 2 Man Alliance. (note: that site is for adults only and NSFW; contains some images of nudity.)

      I just think (this is my opinion) it’s a shame that there are people who feel the need to have a separate label to separate themselves from people who choose to have anal sex, among other things. There are 1001 different things about gay people around the world, I’m sure. Just like not all straight people are the same or like to do the same things. Imagine all the different branches and labels we would need if everyone insist on their own movements and labels! As if there are not enough labels already. The only related label I’m willing to plaster onto myself is ‘gay’, that’s all. So in my case, I’m just a gay dude, who considers himself masculine, who finds only masculine guys sexually attractive, and who does not engage in anal sex. There. It’s so oversharing, but there you have it.

      B-girl, I’d like to thank you for taking the time and effort to read my post and writing your comment. And just as appreciated is the quote and link you provided. I can relate to some of the things written there.

    • As a man who really enjoys recieveing anal sex, I find it offensive that people say it’s in any way disrespectful. And it’s totally possible to have anal with the reciever on their back facing their partner (you just need to lift your legs up a bit, maybe a pillow under the hips if it’s difficult).

      If it’s not for you then fine, but don’t tell me that one of my faivorite and most intimate sex acts I partake in is in some way degrading to me.

  2. I’m all for guys being vocal about not enjoying anal sex(though I feel they should be more open minded) and rejecting restrictive top/bottom roles. But when it becomes a separatist cult, it makes me believe that there is a deeper issue with these guys. Seems more like a defense mechanism.

    • I guess the guys behind a group like G0ys, they are passionate about their ideals, about their way of life. They feel good and positive about it and perhaps they just wish to help others who may share their opinion about anal sex, for example gay teenagers (and adults) who are just beginning to know/understand their sexual orientation.

      Take me for example. By the time I was sexually active as a teenager (around 18) I just assumed anal sex was the norm because all my lovers initiated or asked that of me. The only concern was to practice safe sex with condoms, but as for the anal sex itself, it was a given back then it was going to happen every single time we had sex.

      I had older lovers, but I wasn’t lucky enough to have a mentor in them to guide me that you don’t have to have penetration to make love with someone. Of course I know the blame laid squarely on me. I was too willing to do what others want. Great sex after all is about taking care of the other person and making sure they’re happy. But of course I never needed to do anything I wasn’t comfortable doing. Over time anal became less and less frequent until finally I said no totally. But it took many years! Silly me.

      And of course no internet back then lol, no G0ys or Man2Man Alliance websites to learn from. I could definitely have used the info and support from these sites back then.

      Thanks for reading and your comment!

      • There are also many women who don’t enjoy vaginal penetration, and many who have the strength to say this and have sex in other ways. The issue here is one of good sex education, teaching people of all genders that they have the right to do what they want with their body and to say no to things that they don’t like.

  3. I never knew this…I thought Goy was a slightly derogatory Yiddish term for a non-Jewish person. Kind of like shiksa. Goyim is plural? What do I know though? Love your blog as usual….the Paul Rudd photos were classics!

    • I’ve not heard of those words before, so I had a quick look on dictionary.com. How interesting! And imagine the hilarity of a g0y (the gay one) saying to a Jewish person in the midst of conversation, “Oh, I’m a goy”, haha!

      Thanks for sharing those words, Cindy, including ‘Yiddish’. I only heard of Hebrew as the language associated with Jews, so now I know of another one called Yiddish.

      Yes the Paul Rudd photos are amazing! I’m a big fan.

  4. Definitely am very curious about this G0 y thing/ movement, however I probably won’t proscribed to all that mumbo jumbo!

    • Well, I hope you find their website interesting. I hopped over for a while to check it out again after reading your comment. Like I wrote in the post (3 years ago! Wow, time flies), I don’t agree with a lot of what’s written, but I still found it interesting reading to pass the time for an hour or so.

      Thanks for reading and for leaving a comment, John.

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